Join Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman on the Identity at the Center podcast as they welcome Lalit Choda, founder and CEO of the Non-Human Identity Management Group.
Lalit, also known as “Mr. NHI,” shares his journey from investment banking to becoming a leading expert in non-human identities.
This episode delves into the critical and often overlooked world of NHI, exploring why it’s such a hot topic now, the challenges practitioners face in managing these identities, and how to approach the problem from a risk-based perspective.
Lalit discusses the limitations of traditional PAM and IGA tools for NHI, the importance of foundational controls, and the alarming implications of AI on non-human identity management.
Plus, hear a fun segment about vinyl records and some surprising finds!
Chapter Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Introduction to Lalit Choda and the NHI Community
00:02:31 – Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast & IdentiVerse Discussion
00:06:18 – Lalit Choda’s Identity Origin Story: From Mr. SOX to Mr. NHI
00:12:03 – Why Non-Human Identities Are a Big Deal Right Now
00:15:37 – Defining NHI and the Practitioner’s Framework
00:19:13 – The Scale and Challenges of NHI Management
00:23:01 – New Types of NHI and Tooling Limitations
00:27:12 – The Lack of a Single Source of Truth for NHI
00:33:57 – Prioritizing NHI Management and the Role of PAM
00:38:58 – A Risk-Based Approach to NHI and Foundational Controls
00:48:15 – What Scares Lalit Most About NHI (and AI)
00:50:54 – Lalit’s Impressive Vinyl Collection
00:56:38 – Jim and Jeff’s First, Best, and Favorite Albums
01:01:15 – The Intersection of Music and Non-Human Identities
01:02:00 – Wrapping Up & Where to Find More Information
Connect with Lalit: / lalit-choda-5b924120
Non-Human Identity Management Group: https://www.nhimg.org/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: jimmcdonaldpmp
Jeff Steadman: jeffsteadman
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com
