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The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast
- By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.
- Mr. NHI hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.
Hosted by Mr. NHI, the podcast brings together the voices actively shaping the future of Non-Human Identity (NHI) and Agentic AI Identity, from founders and practitioners to security leaders dealing with these challenges in the real world.
In Episode 10, we’re joined by Mike Schwartz, Founder & CEO at Gluu to explore a critical shift happening in cybersecurity: how organizations govern, secure, and control Non-Human Identities and AI agents at scale.
This episode introduces the concept of GovOps, a new operating model designed to bring governance, policy, and compliance into the fast-moving world Agentic AI. It goes deep into the growing gap between innovation and control, and why traditional approaches and compliance are no longer enough.
Together, they explored:
- What is GovOps?
- What is the scope of GovOps?
- What are the 3 core components policies authoring Federation Management?
- The intersection between GovOps, DevSecOps, and DevOps?
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Key Moments
- Mr NHI’s Human Identity in the Hot Seat (3:47–13:13)
- What Is GovOps? (14:00–17:19)
- What Is the Scope of GovOps? (17:30–20:49)
- What Problem Are You Trying to Solve with GovOps? (21:11–26:29)
- The Main Focus of GovOps (26:31–29:50)
- What Are the Three Core Components: Policy Authoring and Federation Management? (30:34–37:54)
- How Will GovOps Help CEOs, Leaders, and Security Heads? (38:30–41:38)
- How Would GovOps Have Helped with the Recent McKinsey AI Platform Breach? (41:40–44:46)
- Is There Any Intersection Between GovOps, DevSecOps, and DevOps? (44:47–48:26)
- Closing Thoughts and Advice for the Audience (48:40–50:53)
