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The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast
- By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.
- Mr. NHI hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.
Hosted by Mr. NHI, the podcast brings together the voices actively shaping the future of Non-Human Identity (NHI) and Agentic AI Identity, from founders and practitioners to security leaders dealing with these challenges in the real world.
In Episode 7, Mr. NHI is joined by Shashwat Sehgal, CEO of P0 Security, to explore how Privileged Access Management (PAM) is evolving in the age of AI, cloud infrastructure, and Non-Human Identities (NHIs).
As organisations rapidly adopt AI agents, automation, APIs, service accounts, and machine identities, traditional PAM models built for human users are no longer enough. Security leaders must now rethink identity governance, privileged access, and Zero Trust architectures to secure both human and machine identities at scale.
This conversation dives deep into the future of identity security, discussing how Agentic AI, automation, and non-human identities are reshaping cybersecurity. The episode also explores the risks of autonomous AI interactions, the challenges of modelling complex machine-to-machine behaviour, and how organisations can build modern PAM solutions designed for the AI era.
Together, they explored:
- Will static long lived credentials/secrets still exist in five years?
- Are enterprises finally making NHI risk management a top priority?
- Does PAM change dramatically with the introduction of Agentic AI Agents?
- Will regulators move fast enough to keep up with Agentic AI?
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Key Moments
- Introduction (00:00 – 01:35)
- Mr NHI’s Human Identity In The Hot Seat (Rapid-Fire Questions) (01:36 – 11:47)
- How Has PAM Evolved? (11:48 – 15:43)
- Perspectives On Password-Based PAM (15:44 – 22:28)
- What Does The Modern PAM Solution Look Like? (22:29 – 27:44)
- How Agentic AI Is Going To Change The Game (27:45 – 35:59)
- What Are Agentic AI Risks? (36:00 – 38:10)
- How Can We Model The Complexity Of Autonomous Interactions? (38:11 – 41:29)
- Do We Have To Limit Or Define Who The Agent Is Talking To Or Interacting -With In The Future? (41:30 – 43:42)
- What Is P0 Security Doing? (43:43 – 46:34)
- Closing Thoughts / Advice For The Audience (46:35 – 48:18)
