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The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast.
- By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.
- Mr. NHI hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.
Hosted by Mr. NHI, the podcast brings together the voices actively shaping the future of Non-Human Identity (NHI) and Agentic AI Identity, from founders and practitioners to security leaders dealing with these challenges in the real world.
In Episode 2, Mr. NHI is joined by Alon Jackson, CEO of Astrix Security, to tackle one of the most debated questions in the industry today:
“Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security?”
This discussion is grounded in reality. Based on a recent NHI Management Group poll, opinions are clearly divided, 35% said Yes, while 65% said No. But what does that split really mean, and what are people missing on both sides?
Together, they break down the nuances behind the question and explore where agent security fits within the broader identity landscape, including:
- How AI agents fit into the broader NHI ecosystem
- What an AI agent really is (cutting through the hype)
- Authentication & authorisation challenges unique to agents
- How to detect anomalies in non-deterministic agent behaviour
Plus, we launch a brand-new segment: “Mr NHIs – Human Identity in the Hot Seat” – 10 rapid-fire questions on identity security, NHIs, and Agentic AI.
Whether you’re just starting your NHI and AI journey or building an advanced AI-driven identity strategy, this podcast is a must-listen.
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Key Moments
- Mr NHIs – Human Identity In The Hot Seat (1:26 – 3:24)
- Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security? / The Overlap between Agentic AI & NHI (3:45 – 6:40)
- Defining What an Agent Really Is? (10:32 – 12:29)
- Why Agentic AI Security Is More Complex? (12:33 – 14:53)
- Authentication & Authorisation Challenges for Agents (14:55 – 19:27)
- What Agentic AI Challenge Keeps You Up At Night? (19:42 – 21:48)
- How Do You Detect Anomalies When Agent Behaviour Is Non-Deterministic? (22:36 – 25:31)
- What Does Astrix Security Do? (25:52 – 27:33)
- Why Posture Alone No Longer Sufficient for Securing Non-Human and Agentic Identities? (27:34 – 28:18)
- The Market Perspective (32:58 – 35:29)
- Closing Thoughts / Advice for the Audience (36:18 – 38:29)
